Hey Mox - how much do you work in your lab? like how many hours are you actually there and then how many hours doing actual work? because back to my "relative laziness scale" you always new tons more than me in undergrad. i always thought then that you were one of those super annoying people, who claimed to be lazy, but were secret gunners (gunner is a medical school term for someone who really studies a lot, there are open gunners and secret gunners). so perhaps i was wrong and you're just one of those smart people.

and another point, how come some people are ok with being lazy. nick is much lazier than me and he couldn't care less about it, because, like me, he always gets everything done at some point. maybe what we should really being working on is accepting our laziness rather than trying to fix it? except adspar who really should get a real job :)
 

I would say I'm probably at school for an average of about 7 hours/day including weekends, and I would say I probably do an average of 4 hours of real, actual work per day, including weekends. In my case, though, the averages are misleading because there is a HUGE range in both my effort level and time spent at school over time. The past few days I've been at school 12 hours/day, doing work - by the same token, it's not at all unusual for me to go for weeks at a time coming in at lunchtime and doing no more than an hour or two of menial work (like taking care of the animals) and making no research progress whatsoever. The reason I've been actually working hard lately is because my advisor has an NSF grant proposal supplement due in a few weeks, and I have to do all the work for it. This has happened twice before now, and all three of these periods have been the most productive of my grad career. If I worked like this all the time, I would classify as an "open gunner." As it stands, these are the only times I get anything done, so I don't complain too much when they come up (I think its the outside enforcement, since this is the only time my advisor puts any kind of deadline on my work).

Regarding college, I must say that my sloth could only be described as "herculean." I was certainly more lazy then than I am now, or have been at any time in my life. I did well in school, but whether that was actual intelligence, or just an exceptional ability to cram and remember information for 24 hours (which I will admit to being incredibly good at) is debatable. All I can say is that now that I don't get evaluated by tests, doesn't seem nearly as good as it once did.
 

Supposedly CBT does work. The process seems too simple to be effective, but maybe its tangible transparency is exactly why it does work.

I've heard several similar things regarding ADHD. Namely, the smarter you are, the later in life you are diagnosed with ADHD, the idea being that intelligence can mask ADHD, at least in school, since the prototypical ADHD kid has poor grades and problems with authority.